Having problems with your 2007 Ford E-350 Super Duty Length XLT ?

Help-Ford E-350 Brake problem

\015 Sunday May 24 2009 \015\012I have a 1989 E350 with a 7.3 liter Navistar engine.Since it was new on steep grades the brake pedal fades to the floor. Allowing the brakes to cool remedies the problem.\015\012\015\012At the URL fixya.com/cars/t593696-help_ford_e_350_brake_problemthe posting guy "Mickey" writes: \015\012\015\012"Your question is getting a little dated but I just ran across it today. Have been there and done that with my 89 E350 MH. This issue was covered about 2 weeks ago and I'm surprised no one remembered the discussion...\015\012"At the root of your problem is fact that your rig came with aluminum pistons in the front calipers. They are GREAT for transfering heat from pads to brake fluid and the piston is in direct contact with both. Ford has had a TSB for a number of years describing this problem and the fix. You need to rebuild the calipers and replace the aluminum pistons with the phenolic replacements..."\015\012Can you point me to the discussion postings around the beginning of 2008 which Mickey says are about those aluminum pistons in those calipers, and the brake pedal fade?\015\012Please, is there a way you may contact Mickey to give me more information as to if my particular E350 has these aluminum pistons in the calipers? Which engine does Mickey have in his E350?\015\012If it turns out my E350 has these aluminum pistons in the calipers which is the most economical way of repair? \015\012How can I find out if my E350 has these aluminum pistons in the front brake calipers?\015\012At my E350's age a front brake caliper replacement is not out of the question: Are brand new calipers a better choice than rebuilt? If so, which brands of brand new front brake calipers are best, and do any of these have aluminum pistons in these front brake calipers? Which ones have the phenolic pistons (in these brands of brand new front brake calipers)?\015\012Please, I'm wanting to find the TSB 98-5A-13, TSB 98-5A-38, and a copy of Ford recall 92S44, which may be pertinent to my 1989 E350's front brake calipers, heat transfer, and brake pedal fade.\015\012(Luckily I"ve found TSB 98-5A-29, which is of some use for this E350 problem, if my E350 has it)...\015\012I assume I'll be using Motorcraft super duty BRSD450 brake pads for my E350.\015\012Is there any standard procedure to follow for sudden brake pedal fade?\015\012By brake fluid reservoir cap is part number FO3Z2162A. (The O in this part number is a letter O, not a number Zero.Please, can you locate this new brake fluid reservoir cap? The rubber gasket in my brake fluid reservoir cap may be old.\015\012When my E350 was brand new, the original owner had the rear axle gearing rebuilt; this allows great fuel mileage but my van isn't held back so well down grades by the gearing inside the rear axle...I'll call the original owner to try to find out which gearing is now inside the rear axle.\015\012My VIN: 1FTHS34M1KHC35975. My E350 has the extended body type.\015\012Sincerely,\015\[email protected]\015\012(Ted Abbott)\015 Posted / edited by AnonymousUser on : 14-01-2019

Answers :

First, if the recall applies to your van, it can be done anytime. There is no time limit on recalls. Call your dealer with your 17 Digit VIN number and they can check. Please rate as solved if this is what you need. thanks.
\015\012Here is the recall:
\015\012Safety Recall 92S44 - Certain 1988-1991 F250/350 Trucks for Loss of Front Brake Effectiveness
\015\012Affected Vehicles
\015\012Certain 1988-1991 F250/350 trucks over 8500 lb GVW with 7.5L EFI or 7.3L diesel (4x2 and 4x4) and 5.8L EFI (4x4 only). Trucks under 8500 lb GVW. 5.8L EFI (4x2) and F-Super Duty light trucks are not involved in this recall. Specific vehicle information is as follows: \015\012
\015\012\015\012\015\012\015\012\015\012AFFECTED VEHICLES \015\012ASSEMBLY PLANT \015\012PRODUCTION DATES \015\012\015\012F250/350 \015\012Norfolk \015\012Job#1 1988 to 4/18/91 \015\012\015\012 \015\012Kansas City \015\012Job#1 1988 to 4/25/91 \015\012\015\012 \015\012Ont. Truck \015\012Job#1 1988 to 5/1/91 \015\012\015\012 \015\012Mich. Truck \015\012Job#1 1988 to 5/11/91 \015\012\015\012 \015\012Twin Cities \015\012Job#1 1988 to 5/29/91
\015\012Reasons For Recall
\015\012In certain extremely severe driving conditions, the vehicle may experience a loss of front brake effectiveness due to overheating of brake fluid. These vehicles have a split brake system and the rear brakes remain operational. \015\012This condition has been reported primarily in vehicles operated in mountainous regions, and on vehicles that have been in service for a minimum of one to two years and where the brake fluid has absorbed moisture from the air, lowering its boiling point. It usually involves heavily loaded vehicles driving on long, steep grades, or when towing at, or near, the Maximum Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR) for towing. Warm weather also appears to contribute to this condition. \015\012To correct this condition, dealers will install insulators in the front brake caliper pistons on all the affected trucks. 7.5L EFI engine equipped trucks will also have insulation installed on selected portions of the front brake lines.
\015\012\015\012\015\012\015\012\015\012PART NUMBER \015\012DESCRIPTION \015\012CLASS \015\012DEALER PRICE \015\012\015\012F2TZ-2C361-A \015\012Kit-Brake Caliper Piston Insulator (All Except 7.5L Engines) \015\012BG \015\012 \015\012\015\012F2TZ-2C361-B \015\012Kit-Brake Tube Insulator Jacket (Required Only For Vehicles Equipped With 7.5L EFI Engines) Kit Also Includes Brake Caliper Piston Insulators
\015\012Brake Caliper Piston Insulator Kit
\015\012Installation Instructions
  1. Remove the front wheel and tire assemblies. \015\012
  2. Remove the brake calipers from the rotors. Refer to the appropriate shop manual for the procedures. \015\012
  3. Remove the inner and outer brake linings. \015\012
  4. Inspect the brake caliper pistons. \015\012\015\012\015\012If the pistons are phenolic, (brown in color) no modifications are required. Reassemble the calipers as described in the shop manual. If the truck is equipped with a 7.5L EFI engine, install the brake tube insulator kit. If the truck is not equipped with an 7.5L EFI engine, install the wheels and tires and release the truck.
    \015\012\015\012\015\012If the pistons are aluminum, continue as described below.
  5. Remove the steel retainer and Nomex thermal washers from the kit. \015\012
  6. Place a steel retainer on a bench with the tabs facing up. Refer to Figure 1.
  7. \015\012
  8. Place a Nomex thermal washer over the tabs so that it rests on the barb of each tab. Then, carefully press it over the barb of one of the tabs. Repeat the procedure for each of the remaining tabs. \015\012

    • NOTE:
      Do not bend the tabs. The inner edge of the washer may crease slightly as it passes over the barb. This is permissible provided that the crease can be smoothed out once the washer is in place. The washer must be installed without tearing.

  9. Push the washer down onto the back face of the retainer. Be sure it is seated uniformly on the retainer. Once installed, do not use an adhesive or other aid to hold it in place. This is neither necessary nor permissible. \015\012
  10. Snap an assembled insulator into the inside diameter of each caliper piston. Be sure the assembly is firmly seated on the rim of the piston. See Figure 2.
  11. \015\012
  12. Install the inner and outer brake linings. \015\012
  13. Clean the caliper slide surfaces on the caliper and the spindle with a wire brush and lubricate with Disc Brake Caliper Slide Grease, D7AZ-19590-A (ESA-M1C172-A) or equivalent. \015\012
  14. Reinstall the brake calipers. Refer to the appropriate shop manual for the procedures. \015\012
  15. Install the wheel and tire assemblies.
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